Looking for feedback

Two Questions!

What is the worst “good” movie you know of? I don’t mean Manos: The Hands of Fate, nor do I mean mainstream stinkers like Catwoman. No, I mean things that are regarded as good by a bunch of people but you just don’t like.

Take the Bourne Movies, Supremacy to be specific. I like it, I think it’s got a good level of kinetic energy and I found the shaky camera to be an innovative and interesting (if slightly over done) effect. However, I know a lot of people disliked, often for the shaky cam although the underdeveloped parts of the plot did get a mention now and then. I’ll grant the critics have a point, but the Moscow Chase at the end makes up for a lot. I’ve only seen the whole movie twice since we bought it on DVD, but I’ve seen that chase twenty or thirty times. I like car chases, I don’t have to justify myself to you! don't judge me

My point is that I’m looking for a supposedly good movie that you Just Don’t Like. I’m going to exclude anything that’s been on MST3K right away, which does mean no Titanic I’m afraid. (Check your illegally downloaded collection. It’s in there with Good Will Hunting and As Good As It Gets for one of the Oscar Preview shows they did for the sci-fi channel.) Actually I’d like to not see any of the usual suspects (although you could mention The Usual Suspects if you wanted) so no Star Trek… well anything odd numbered really, no Star Wars Prequels, nothing like that.

What I’m really looking for here is the movie you think is lousy but seem to be the only one not blinded to its massive flaws. I would pick Batman Begins, which I started thinking was okay but after the baddie pulled the old “Now that I’ve shown you my plans I have to kill you” shtick, the movie just died and never recovered.


NOW! Let’s discuss the other half.

What is the best “bad” movie you can think of? At this point you can mention anything, so long as there is a general consensus that it’s a lousy movie. Use of MST3K’s episode list is not only welcome, it’s encouraged. The proviso there is that you must enjoy the movie on its own without Joel, Mike and the bots. I would almost like to demand you own a copy of the movie and can present the DVD or tape upon demand, but how the hell am I going to do that?

I would like to go with Sadko, which actually a wonderful movie if you watch the original. The problem is, what made it bad was the English translation. That’s true of a lot of the foreign movies they showed.

Having to pick a movie that I would watch on its own merits, even though I know its crap, I’m going to go with The Promise. No translation error can excuse this mess of a film. I actually wonder if watching the American cut makes it better or worse. I will watch it again, hopefully in the company of friends because while it’s hilariously bad as Love HK Film said, it is also Easily the most entertaining and gorgeous train wreck of the year.